[kate battista]

I took a screen shot. Two actually….one with the main percentages and one with the percentages you get when you hover over Other. If you do that on your PC you can insert the pics onto a word doc and print. Hope that helps!!

[kate battista]

Kathleen – That’s very interesting! Thanks for that tidbit. 

[kate battista]

Thank you! He is pretty mixed.  He’s 25% APBT, 25% Unknown, 15% Aussie, then boxer, chow, GSD, assorted collie breeds and bulldogs (all under 10% each).  I should update his photo; he finally dropped those last few pounds that were hanging on.

[kate battista]

I know they have Staffordshire Bull Terrier in the list of mapped breeds. I figured that’s what the 7.2% was. I’m no expert all the different bully breeds so maybe someone from DA can confirm.

Chandler is about 75lbs and about 23″ at the shoulder so definitely closer to AmStaff than the Staffordshire Bull terrier size wise.

[kate battista]

I know for Wisdom Panel, they told me that the unknown portion was basically indicating that certain breeds came up but with very low confidence so they indicate if there are common “types” among the results. I specifically asked about German Shepherds as we figured he had GSD ancestry given how common they are and his appearance. Customer service was able to let me know that one of his main “low confidence” breeds was a Berger Suisse Blanc.

With DA, I think the unknown portion is simply an issue of certain breeds not being mapped yet. I imagine it will be a “bully type” breed but maybe it will be some of those “low confidence” breeds that WP referenced.

[kate battista]

Hi Kate,

I did Wisdom Panel in addition to Darwin’s Ark. Here is what I got for the same dog:

Wisdom Panel:

25%–American Staffordshire Terrier
25%–Australian Shepherd
50%–Breed Group(s):
● Herding
● Guard
● Sporting
● Companion

Darwin’s Ark:
5.7 % Chow Chow
6.4 % Boxer
6.6 % German Shepherd
7.2 % Staffordshire Terrier
10.6 % Australian Shepherd
17.8 % Others (Border collie, collie, Boston, Lab, Bull terrier)
45.7 % Unknown

As you can see there is some overlap but DA is much more indepth.

[kate battista]

I got my results and others have too. This isn’t a business run by a giant corporation like Wisdom Panel. This is scientific research which is relies on funding and takes unpredictable twists and turns.

[kate battista]

Thanks!

[kate battista]

“Right now we are working on getting more American Pit Bull Terriers into our reference panel, so we should be able to tell reliable % of Pit Bull in your dog once sequenced! ”

Hi! When the APBTs are added will tests that have already been sequenced be updated if the dog has apbt ancestry?

[kate battista]

@Jennifer

I think there will be retroactive results….in the FAQ I saw this:

“As more dogs participate, our breed ancestry analysis will delve deeper into the history of your dog’s genetics. This means that you might in the future get updated reports with adjusted or additional breed contributions to your dog’s ancestry as our 4,000,000+ markers are better and better defined.”

Sounds promising! Wisdom panel could only account for 50% of my pup’s ancestry….the other 50 was “unknown herding breed.” So I am curious to see what these results will show.

[kate battista]

Agreed. I would rather wait five years and get really in depth info that could be used to help future dogs than get a stab in the dark after 5 weeks of waiting.

And I love people who think swabbing their dog’s mouth and filling out surveys is “work.” It’s only slightly harder than playing Farmville.

[kate battista]

“Heather moorefeild calling people entitled and getting something for nothing is incorrect and insulting…we did do something, we filled out a lot of surveys and sent in samples and were promised the DNA results for our dogs.”

Not incorrect. You participated in a research study through a university. It was never promised that you would receive results in a time frame that pleases you. A modicum of common sense would tell you that a research project funded by outside grants is unpredictable. Sure you swabbed your dog’s cheek and clicked some check boxes but the people running this study are also working hard. Not only are they working hard, but they get emails and forum posts berating them for not working fast enough from folks filled out a few surveys and now seem to think they’re a supervisor.

People want more research for canine health but apparently don’t want to wait for it to be done properly.

[kate battista]

” it looks like your dog (who is in the final stages of analysis) will be among the first batch of dogs to receive results on the website”

Interesting… Is there a way to see where we are in the queue or is that info only on your end? Just curious. I sent my kit in April 2016 but I know others did it even earlier.

[kate battista]

Great thread. There are some breeds that I think would benefit from some carefully, intelligently handled crossbreeding. It’s not unheard of…many of the breeds we have today orginally came from a combo of other breeds that were put together to acheive an ideal hunting/herding/retrieving/etc dog. And other breeds, when faced, with extinction had similar breeds mixed in to keep them going.

PS – Car2ner, I think we’re members of the same GSD forum. 🙂

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